Birdfeeding
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I fed the birds. I haven't seen much activity yet.
I put out water for the birds.
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A reader writes:
I’m curious to hear your thoughts on how to ask for a salary range prior to an interview. I applied for a job that seems like a great fit based on the job description. However, the job description doesn’t list a salary range, nor did they ask for my salary requirements on the application. I know for a fact that I’m currently at the upper salary range for this type of job, and I have no interest in taking a step backwards.
I got an email asking to set up a one-hour interview on Zoom, which I was willing to do before having any salary info. Today, I got another email asking if I’m willing to do an in-person interview instead. That will require taking a day off work, and who the heck does in-person interviews in the first round anymore? But regardless, I would be willing to do it if we’re in the same ballpark on salary. Otherwise, it doesn’t make sense to waste either of our time.
I’ve been in this position before, and when I pressed for a salary range prior to the interview it seemed to change the tone of the conversation out of the gate. One time, the company stopped responding even though they had asked me to set up an interview.
Is there any way to ask for salary info prior to an interview without making it weird?
You can read my answer to this letter at New York Magazine today. Head over there to read it.
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Because they’re pretty, and the US is a mess in ways that will take a lot to essay, and I just got back from travel and apparently caught a bit of con crud in Phoenix and so am kind of low energy at the moment. So: Look! Flowers! I figure the rest of the Internet will catch you up on the rest of it. Here, have a bit of pretty.
— JS
It’s a special “where are you now?” season at Ask a Manager and I’m running updates from people who had their letters here answered in the past.
There will be more posts than usual this week, so keep checking back throughout the day.
Remember the letter-writer whose employee wasn’t as productive on her work-from-home days? Here’s the update.
I was really grateful that you answered my question last year.
First off, apologies to all of the commenters who provided input on the post that included my question last summer — I’m in the UK and the time difference meant I couldn’t jump in on the day my question was answered — but I did read all of the comments and was really grateful for all of the input, which really did make for interesting reading.
Something that came through quite strongly in the comments was a sense of “What is the actual issue here?” As I’d noted in my question, Claire was (and continues to be) a good employee — she’s knowledgeable, personable, meets deadlines and gets her work done without issue. Lots of the commenters made the very good point that if that was the case, they weren’t clear as to why I had any issue with her working from home days appearing less productive than her in-office days — and you know what? That was a very fair point!
Alison’s advice was to name what I was seeing and to ask Claire about that, but given that strong thread coming through in the comments, I actually initially decided not to do anything at all, and just to take a bit of a “watching brief,” reminding myself that Claire was meeting her objectives at work and my expectations of her, even if her pattern of productivity did look a bit unbalanced to me.
Come appraisal time, earlier this year, I opened with some gentle questions around how Claire was finding her role in general and asking her to reflect on her role over the last year. Claire shared with me that after she had returned to work after having her second child (nine months to a year of maternity leave is average here in the UK, it is a long break), her husband had been suffering with postnatal depression and she had consequently been struggling with balancing work and a heavy home life burden. She also said, however, that things had significantly improved over the last six months or so, that she was finding balancing things much easier since her husband had recovered and children were getting a little older and more predictable and — crucially — that she had appreciated my patience as her manager. She named herself that her WFH days had been less visibly productive than her in-office days at first, but that she hoped I had noticed that this had since balanced out somewhat (which I indeed had from my time just watching).
I used this opportunity to explain to Claire that whilst I had noticed that pattern with her WFH days, I also recognized that Claire was meeting my expectations, hitting deadlines, and doing her job well. I also noted, taking directly from Alison’s answer, that I understood that the different environment at home might be a place whereby Claire was better able to focus on deep work, write up minutes, catch up on phone calls, etc., and that that was absolutely fine. Claire responded really warmly to this and I was very grateful for that part of the answer in particular.
Claire continues to be an excellent employee and has even asked me recently about increasing her hours by an additional day now things have settled a bit for her and her children are that little bit older. I’m not clear yet whether I’ll be able to make that happen (university budget cuts, anyone?) but I will absolutely be doing my best to — she’s not someone we want to lose, and I’m grateful that I didn’t fudge managing what was a difficult time for her and end up losing her before now.
All in all, I feel like asking the question and receiving both the answer and the comments really gave me pause to think about whether what I thought was a problem really was a problem (which is something I’m stopping and thinking about a bit more these days), and a provided me with a bit of a lesson in giving my employees grace and space. I’m pleased to be able to share a positive update and again thank you, AAM community!
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It’s five answers to five questions. Here we go…
1. Should I comment on an intern’s limp handshake?
I work in a professional field that requires a lot of client contact. I shake hands regularly with both clients and professional colleagues. I met an intern today who has an off-putting handshake — just totally limp. For what it’s worth, both the intern and I are women. I’m wondering if it’s worth addressing via constructive feedback. On the one hand, it really doesn’t matter that she has a dead fish handshake, and the norms around a “proper” handshake are sexist. On the other, it seems like an easy thing to fix, and could save her unfair judgment in the future. Should I say something or leave it alone?
I’m a little torn on this because, on one hand, the firm handshake convention is pretty weird if you really think about it, and for some people “power handshakes” can be painful. But it’s also true that firm handshakes are still very much an expectation in many contexts, some people really hate limp handshakes, and regardless of what anyone thinks of the convention, it will benefit your intern to know how to shake hands properly if she can.
So yeah, I’d lean toward saying something, as long as you come at it like a mentor rather than a critic. You could frame it as, “Someone showed me this when I first started working and I want to pass it on to you, because it’s something clients will expect.”
(Answering this letter shook free an until-now buried memory of my dad coaching me to practice my handshake over and over with him as a kid until it was sufficiently hearty.)
2. My team saw a meeting transcript with another team venting and complaining about us
I am involved in a project at work that requires partnering with a couple different departments. There is a standing weekly meeting that one department typically records so the transcript is available afterwards.
For various reasons, my department did not participate in the last weekly meeting, but the transcript was available afterwards. I decided to read it later in the day and discovered that the participants spent over 45 minutes talking about how my team is lazy, doesn’t do what we are asked, withholds information, etc. The reality is that the person leading the project is often all over the place, is unable to keep track of things that are provided to them, and frequently mishears what is being communicated to them. We have either provided them the information they need or let them know on various occasions why we cannot produce the data they are asking for and gave them alternate ways of finding it.
My manager escalated the issue. But since this just happened, we haven’t received any communication on next steps.
We have a long working meeting coming up. Of course I’m going to be as professional as possible, but I’m quite offended and can’t seem to shake it. I am no stranger to venting about others, but I’ve at least never recorded it for the world to see! I’m curious to know your thoughts about to proceed from here. Maybe this letter can be a reminder to people about the dangers of recording meetings!
When you overhear a conversation that’s about you but wasn’t meant for you, often the most constructive thing you can do is to take it as useful background info. In other words, you now know that team is really frustrated with your department, and they see the situation really differently than your team does (i.e., they think it’s your department’s fault, rather than recognizing the problems on their end). The advantage to overhearing something like this is that now you have an opening to have a more open discussion about what’s going on — it’s an opportunity to say, “Now that we’re aware of the frustration on your end, let’s figure this out!” and then, hopefully, go on to talk about how to fix it.
You can’t control what your manager does, but that approach would be a better move than her decision to escalate it. The issue isn’t that the other team was venting; it’s that there’s a major misunderstanding/miscommunication/lack of alignment about what’s going on between the two teams and what steps would fix things.
As for the next meeting, any chance one of you is up for saying, “On the transcript from last week’s meeting, we saw the discussion about XYZ. Can we take a few minutes to talk about how we can make sure you’re getting what you need from us?”
3. Company’s no-alcohol policy on business trips
This is a question from a job I left many years ago. At the time that I worked there, no employee was allowed to consume alcohol when on business travel. Not in your hotel room, not at a friend’s home, not at a cocktail hour at a conference. I was a salaried, exempt employee. I believe the policy was the same for hourly employees. I know that this isn’t normal, but is it legal?
Yeah, it’s definitely not typical. It’s legal in most states, though (and maybe in all of them, but it’s possible that it would be illegal in a small number of states like California that have stronger privacy protections for employees’ out-of-work activities — but even then, employers have more leeway if they can argue the activity could impact their business).
I’m curious to know what your employer’s rationale was. Was it a sort of general teetotaler philosophy where they didn’t want you drinking while you were on a trip to represent them, even well after work hours? Or a concern that you could end up unexpectedly needing to work during the trip so needed to always be sober? Or a response to something specific that happened on one notorious trip? It would have been interesting to ask!
4. People ask to meet with them and then send me to a website to make an appointment
Recently professionals have been reaching out to me and asking to meet. Normally this is fine and welcome, but they’re using Calendly to schedule a meeting with them, a website where I have to search for openings in their schedule to make an appointment. Am I wrong in finding it off-putting? I can see the efficiency behind this, but it feels impersonal and that I have to work around the schedule of someone who can’t be bothered to go to the effort of an extra minute or email or two to make a personal connection. It also feels like I am being asked to put more effort into this than they are. Am I just being old-fashioned?
Yeah, you’re being old-fashioned! The idea with programs like Calendly is that they save you time — you don’t need to go back and forth comparing your schedules and searching for a time you’re both available; you can immediately see what slots are open and pick the one that works best for you. It’s actually a convenience for you!
But if you really hate it and you’re the one doing the favor, feel free to just respond with your preferred method — like, “Actually, it’s easier for me if you pick from one of the following times” — but I suspect it’ll save you time to use their link.
5. How do I write a cover letter for a job I’m not passionate about?
I really appreciate all the cover letters you post as guidance, particularly the post from June 4th on career transitions. Even though I work in marketing and, in theory, should find it easy to tell my own brand story, writing cover letters has always been my biggest hindrance when it comes to job applications. It’s paralyzing, and prevents me from sending out applications. The examples on this site are so helpful and personal, and they show a real connection between the person and the job they’re applying for, but what if someone’s just looking for a job, and they don’t have a strong preference for a specific industry or title?
Right now, I’m in academic publishing – a field I thought I’d love but it’s just not doing it for me. The truth is, I’m mainly looking for a new job that pays the bills, and I’m not too picky about the industry or the specific role. How do I write a cover letter for jobs like that? And for the jobs I do care about, what kind of questions should I be asking myself to create a cover letter as successful as the ones you’ve posted? I’ve even tried using AI (GAH!) to help me organize my thoughts and experiences, but the results just don’t sound genuine. I don’t have a burning passion for law firms or dental offices, but they offer better pay than my current job, and I know I could do the work well, but I realize that’s not enough to get my resume noticed, especially when trying to switch industries. So, how do I write a cover letter that sounds authentic when the mere thought of writing one leaves me feeling paralyzed and struggling to connect the dots? I want to communicate my value and potential in a convincing way, even if I don’t have a deep connection to the specific industry.
You don’t need to write about your burning passion for dental offices! While a good cover letter might touch on a particular interest in the work, their bigger priority is to demonstrate why the candidate would excel at the job — which is a whole different thing, and that’s where you should focus. Why should they be excited about hiring you — what in your background can you offer up to illustrate why you’d be good at the work? That’s the common denominator in all the examples I’ve posted here: they make a case for why the person would be great at the job, fleshing out the relatively dry work history that’s on most resumes and helping the employer envision what they’d be like as an employee.
An exercise that can help: imagine you’re writing an email to a friend about why you think you’d be really good at this job. Write that email. That’s often a really good starting place.
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This classic Unshelved strip originally appeared on Fri, 05 Dec 2014.